Why are derby county called the rams

Personally I like the Ram image, it does evoke a certain attitude of pride, defiance, power and potency, which is a good way to be I reckon, on the football pitch anyway, and maybe in life too, even though one suspects that these ideas are becoming increasingly unfashionable in the current Zeitgeist.

I think that the image also speaks to the directness and honesty of people here, and the notion that blunt truth is preferable to polite hypocrisy. In ancient times, armies would use a Battering Ram to break down the door of a castle or fortress, and the front end would often be carved into the shape of a Ram's head.

A Ram's horn would be played loudly to summon villagers in an emergency or as a battle signal for tribal warriors. Maybe when Mel Morris made his famous "Derby way" comment he was unknowingly channelling these ancient and long established images and trying to suggest that a team called the Rams should play the game in a dynamic, thrusting, forward moving way, even at the risk of conceding as well as scoring.

So the word "Gawn" from the 11th verse in the poem. Is it a milking stool? When I search it on my browser it just assumes I have mis spelt Gown. Probably one of the best posts I've ever read I would give it 2 likes if I could; one just for the use of the word "zeitgeist". Lots of great points and observations. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Already have an account? Sign in here.

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings , otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Just why are Derby County the Rams? Share More sharing options One wonderful aspect of Derby is that unlike other cities and towns it does not have to rely on myths and fiction for its history.

The Welsh Dragon and Lincoln Imp certainly did not. But the Derby Ram, of course, did. The ballad of the Derby Ram is hundreds of years old and was extremely popular among the townspeople of Derby. The highlight of the play was the slaying of the ram by the butcher stabbing it in the throat and the boy catching the blood in his bowl.

The people of Derby used to gild the horns of the performing rams which seems to suggest that the play may be a survival of the Roman custom of gilding the horns of animals about to be sacrificed. Derby County have done much over the years to promote the town of Derby, and have kept the Derby Ram known to people throughout the world. As a keen Rams fan, I stumbled across this website completely by accident through the wonderful Black and White photo of the Baseball Ground which I found on Google Images.

What a shame the book never made it to publication. It would have made a fine addition to any bookshelf, well researched and with lovely images. I have bookmarked the site so I can come back time and again.

I know that these stands were there during the war as the Normanton End suffered bomb damage, so I was wondering whether you know the date of the picture. Thank you for your appreciated accolades, Simon. Legend: the pre-development Baseball Ground in , three years before the club bought the ground from industrialist and baseball fan Francis Ley. I have mixed feelings from my visit to the Baseball Ground. It was a second division match against Portsmouth on Monday 8 December With Hillsborough in mind I was astounded with the crowd packed in like sardines in a caged terrace; next to the away support who were housed under the same conditions.

When Derby scored the jam-packed terrace erupted and I cannot recall my feet having touched concrete for a minute. I felt like a ball in a pinball machine. It was in one of the two stands running the length of the pitch; most likely the Co-Op. Frightening as it was I asked a steward to be transferred to the opposite all-seater at half-time.

I'm not sure about that, if you look through old pictures none of them show us with a badge, even the FA Cup winners had plain shirts. That beautiful history goes on to talk about another important factor, which is the 18th century folk song "The Derby Ram".

What they don't mention is that ballad was adopted as the regimental song of the 1st Derbyshire militia , and a Ram became their mascot. It stayed the tradition through all iterations of the Derbyshire militia and was adopted by future and current regiments via regimental amalgamations. I'm finding it difficult to find any images of any early Derbyshire CCC crests, but assuming that is true, I still think the reason both early Derbyshire CCC and Derby County are linked to the Ram is because Derbyshire has always been linked to the ram for years, and therefore the credit of why we are the Rams should go to that history - rather than "because we took the same badge".

That certainly should not be the story of the origin of our nickname, as it's far deeper than that. Harry storer in wearing the first derby club badge on his shirt, it had a rams head, a rose and a buck in the park, the buck in the park represented the town of Derby, the rams head represented the team and the rose and the crown represented the county of Derbyshire, the rose and the crown were also the badge of the cricket club from whence we came.

Fascinating stuff, it looks to me like the badge was dropped again after a few years, until after ww2, any idea why? Were all lucky to have each other mate! One big happy family! It was dc fc this was then put pack on the shirt after the fa cup win and it then went to just the rams head at the end of the 60s then onto the proud snorting ram in However let me expand the question a little more.

For example do any of your sources refer to the "Rams" instead of Derby ,if so how early in our history. I guess in a wider context when did other clubs acquire theirs or indeed people? A cultural enigma perhaps. I think SaintRam nailed that one!

Carl Sagan loweman2 brilliant stuff about the history of our club. Louis Rams have bounced between 3 different cities and gets its name from a team in another city entirely from the looks of it - its like Milton Keynes times a thousand over there, but its every team instead of just one.

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